CountersWhen you get to know Japanese a little, you may be surprised at how easy it is. Despite having a totally different alphabet and all those Kanji characters, it really is quite easy to speak and understand, and also very simple grammatically. There are some things, however, that even the Japanese themselves find hard about their language, and one of these is counters.

The Japanese make counting into a nightmare. While most other languages might have a couple ways of counting (ie. one, two, three versus first, second, third), it is generally not the hardest aspect of their language. Japan has a different way of counting almost every type of object conceivable, and a few special exceptions for important items besides. Not only that, but the counters are sometimes said differently depending on which number you are on (unlike most languages where you say “one ______”), and sometimes the old style of counting must be used instead of the modern style.

Here are some examples:
- Ba (場) – Counter for sections of a play (First act, second act, etc.). Uses old style of counting.
- Bun (文) – Counter for sentences in a piece of writing.
- Byou (秒) – Counter for seconds.
- Dou (堂) – Counter for Buddhist Temples.


}- Furi (振) – Counter for Japanese swords (but not Katana). Uses old style of counting.
- Hiki (匹) – Counter for small animals, except birds.
- Hon (本) – Counter for books and long things.
- Ji (耳) – Counter for rabbits in pairs.
- Ka (日) – Counter for days 2-10 and 20 of a month. Uses old style of counting.
- Mai (枚) – Counter for flat objects.
- Nin (人) – Counter for people.
- Sai (才) – Counter for age.
- Tsu (つ) – A general counter for inanimate things. Uses the old style of counting.
- Tou (刀) – Counter for Katana.

These are just a few of many, many different counters. It’s very difficult, even for the Japanese, to remember what counter to use. In fact, there is a game show in Japan which is based around the idea of choosing the perfect counter for objects, and the contestants very rarely get above the number 20.

There is a little hope, however. Most counters are not often used, and in general conversions, you can easily get by if you know a few basic ones such as “tsu”, “sai”, “ka” and “nin”.

If you wish to know more, here are a few helpful websites:
Japanorama Counter Page
Wikipedia Counters
Counters Site

What do you think? If you already know Japanese and know about counters, how difficult or easy has it been for you to learn them?

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Comments

scarreddragon on 10 November, 2007 at 4:04 am #

Despite having a totally different alphabet and all those Kanji characters, it really is quite easy to speak and understand, and also very simple grammatically.

Lol, I don’t know where you learned Japanese, but send that program to me! I’ve never had an easy time of it, counters included. I’ve resorted to route memorization in a desperate attempt to know at least some of them, because there is no logical way to think about them.


saeadame on 10 November, 2007 at 3:02 pm #
For the grammar, Japanese is easy because order doesn’t matter. Yes, there is a perfect order, but as long as you have the right particle with the right word, you can say them in any order. Yes there’s a great deal of memorization, but way less then many other languages. Japanese has only threee different kinds of verbs - ru, u, and irregular (of which there are only three). And once you get the basic form of the verbs, it’s very easy to convert them to the various forms. xD I can’t really send you my program, since it’s a person. That’s probably why I find it easy-ish, ne?

scarreddragon on 11 November, 2007 at 12:48 am #

You could send me a person! I’ll take good care of them! XD; I think that is my biggest problem overall - lack of a practice partner. There are very, very few native speakers in my area, so getting real, non classroom practice of any sort is near impossible. That, and I’m just not strong at learning languages.


saeadame on 11 November, 2007 at 3:06 am #
Lack of speakers would be a big problem, yeah. And you can’t steal my program! I need him xD

scarreddragon on 12 November, 2007 at 4:08 am #

Awwwwwwww ;_;

xDD


Joshiro on 12 November, 2007 at 5:09 am #

Haha, yeah the whole lack of a practice partner thing screws up my fluency too. Ever since I got back from Tokyo, I’ve been stuttering left and right in Japanese.

Counters are a pain in the butt, but when all else fails just use “Hitotsu, Futatsu, Mittsu, Yottsu, etc.” They’ll understand you even if you sound like a “gaijin.” Chances are you are a gaijin, so they’ll cut you some slack. Your list of examples has some random stuff up there lol. Buddhist temples? Unless you are counting how many is Kyoto or something.


saeadame on 12 November, 2007 at 5:48 am #
Yeah my examples were a little odd xD. But I couldn’t find my original worksheet about the counters, and so I was looking off a site and it had strange ones. Like, I couldn’t see the counter “ko” anywhere in their list, it was weird.

scott on 15 November, 2007 at 8:02 pm #

A specific counter for flat objects…?

What I need is a counter for how many times I’ve listened to Cloud Nine (Yoko Kanno/Maaya Sakamoto). Oh wait, I’ve got the iTunes counter, never mind.

Enjoyable article, thank you!


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